WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- How to turn a blank slate into a must-have product by focusing on the features that actually matter.
- Balancing market insights with your visionâbecause copying whatâs already out there is boring.
- How to prioritize and iterate without obsessing over perfection (because MVP doesnât stand for âMake it Very Perfectâ).
Ever wonder how some products go from a vague idea to a fully-fledged, must-have tool in record time? In this episode, Liz Pouya takes us through her no-nonsense approach to building from scratch, leaning on customer feedback, and avoiding the trap of premature optimizations. Whether youâre just sketching out ideas or launching your MVP, Lizâs insights will show you how to focus on what actually moves the needleâwithout sweating the small stuff. Spoiler: you donât need to reinvent the wheel (just make it cooler).
THE EXPERT
Meet Liz Pouya, Lead Product Manager at Chili Piper. With over 5 years of experience at Chili Piper, Liz has taken products from zero to hero, and her approach is all about listening to customers, building what matters, and skipping unnecessary bells and whistles. Liz knows how to balance ambition with realityâno fluff, just killer products.
THE INSIGHTS
1 - Focus on what moves the needle first
Launching a new product can feel like youâre staring at a buffetâeverything looks tempting. But Lizâs approach is clear: âScope out whatâs going to make the most impact immediately. Just get an MVP out ASAP, validate it, and keep building from there.â
This isnât the time to get lost in features no one will use. Cut through the noise and go for the game-changers. Release early, gather feedback, and donât sweat the small stuff (yet).
âYou canât do everything at once⌠figure out where you can cut corners and where you should spend more time.â
2 - Donât reinvent the wheel (But donât copy it either)
Yes, there are chat tools out there. But that didnât stop Chili Piper from building its own, based on the pain points their customers actually had. Liz stresses the importance of listening to your audience and asking, âWhere can we add value?â
Market research is your best friend, but just because something exists doesnât mean you canât make it better. Think about what your customers need and what the market is missingâthen innovate from there.
âWhy are we building this? Where can we add value based on how our users are using Chili Piper today?â
3 - Build with (and for) your customers
Lizâs secret weapon? Customers. Sheâs constantly checking in with them, getting real-time feedback, and even throwing out ideas on calls. Every suggestion or reaction helps shape the product. You donât need a huge focus groupâjust a handful of excited users willing to be your sounding board.
âWe need at least two to five customers saying, âYes, I want that. I need that,â or it gets deprioritized.â
4 - Prioritize like a pro
Not every request is urgent (even if your customers think it is). Lizâs team prioritizes by focusing on their core audienceâB2B sales and marketing teams. Anything outside of that? It gets shelved for later. The result? They build features that make a real difference to their main users, rather than chasing every shiny new request.
âWe got really clear on who we were building for. Anything that fell outside of that bucket got kicked down the road.â
5 - Avoid the trap of premature optimizations
Weâve all been thereâtinkering with features that donât really matter while ignoring the bigger picture. Liz says itâs easy to fall into the trap of premature optimizations when youâre trying to build quickly. Her rule? If it works and itâs not core to the daily user experience, it can wait. Perfecting minor details is a luxuryâget the MVP out first.
âPrematurely optimizing isnât a waste of time, but itâs probably not the best use of time.â
6 - The bullseye strategy: go big or go home
When launching a new product, Liz doesnât believe in starting small. Instead, she focuses on landing big customers right out of the gate, even if itâs more challenging. This âbullseye strategyâ means partnering with major players like Facebook from the start, using their feedback to push the product to be better and build fast.
âFind your ideal customer who will pay you the most and go after them first. Donât waste time on smaller companies.â
This playbook is packed with Lizâs no-nonsense approach to product management, proving that you can build great things without getting bogged down by perfectionism or distractions. Itâs all about staying laser-focused on what truly matters, validating with real users, and keeping the momentum going.